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Is It Askins or Edmondson?

by: DocHoc

Tue Jul 20, 2010 at 00:53:26 AM CDT


Image of Jari AskinsImage of Drew Edmondson

Who has the best chance against U.S. Rep. Mary Fallin in the state's gubernatorial general election:  Lt. Gov. Jari Askins or Attorney General Drew Edmondson?

It's a question vexing and dividing many Democratic political observers, who mostly like and admire both candidates, but there's wide agreement that this year's governor's race is about as crucial as it gets. Republicans are expected to retain majorities in the House and Senate, and only a Democratic governor can bring much needed balance to Oklahoma government.

DocHoc :: Is It Askins or Edmondson?
So what if Fallin, who is leading in the polls, wins? What will happen to the state's educational systems under the Republican agenda? What about the impoverished, the hungry? Will our prisons get more crowded?  Will new tax cuts for the state's wealthiest citizens force even more draconian cuts in state government?  What about quality of life issues and the state's national image in the land of state Reps. Sally Kern (R-Oklahoma City) and Randy Terrill (R-Moore). Will the state lose even more progressive people?

Republicans here are running on anti-government hysteria and Tea Party rhetoric. Their strategy is to create unfounded fear in voters.  Let's face it, that's what many Oklahomans are buying into these days. Which candidate, Edmondson or Askins, has the best chance of countering the right-wing extremism and winning votes in the November general election?

As a liberal, I want to vote for the most progressive candidate in any race, but in Oklahoma you sometimes don't even get a choice. Both Askins and Edmondson can't be described as liberal in any rational political sense, though the winner in the Democratic gubernatorial primary will undoubtedly be labeled by Fallin's camp as a President Barack Obama-supporting socialist or something along that line. But we can try to limit the damage of the Republican agenda by supporting a Democrat for governor. That's the reality here for liberals. Another option, of course, is to work outside the two-party system.

Askins and Edmondson are both accomplished people, who, if elected, would serve the state well as a centrist to sometimes centrist-right governor, much like Gov. Brad Henry. There's little doubt about that among many Democratic leaders, but who can win against Fallin, a telegenic candidate with good funding, national endorsements and name recognition in the most anti-Obama state in the nation? That's the main question as the primary approaches.

In Oklahoma, the conservative juggernaut, cheered on by The Oklahoman and other local corporate media outlets, continues unchecked.  A Democratic win in the governor race this year would be a huge victory for those trying to find some political rationality here beyond Tea Party rants and hateful vitriol about the first African American president in the nation's history.

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Anyone out there?
I was looking for information to help make choices in the upcoming election and I found this site and thought that this is great, didn't know this site existed...but no comments? A bit disheartening.

i'll offer a comment...
...and i don't even live in oklahoma.

i'm watching the candidates debate on c-span right now (you can see the same debate by clicking here), and i've just heard mary fallon and robert hubbard say that they're out to promote the "great lifestyle" in the state--even as the statistics show that ok has one of the worst records, nationally, on things like teen pregnancy, and illiteracy, and diabetes, and youth smoking, and a whole lot more.

it looks as though they're running for "chief cheerleader", rather than to be a governor who will make the tough choices ok needs to make going forward.

on the other hand, i've seen both askins and edmonson talk about things that government is doing that actually are making either the economy or the state's school nutrition programs better...which suggests to me that either of these two candidates are more inclined to use government, in smarter ways, than the rs they're running against.

edmonson is suggesting that mental health programs are key to cutting crime, and that ok is cutting not only those programs, but the actual budget for guards in the department of corrections that this legislature passed in dangerously low.

fallon, answering the same question, said we need to "reduce the number of high school graduates", which i assume was a mistake...and she suggests more faith-based ministries in jail would help, as well. she also supports drug courts, which is good...but do you really believe more jesus in jail will stop the mental health problem that's behind all of this?

i don't--and she didn't even acknowledge the fact that those issues exist, which tells you a lot about what her priorities as governor might be.

"he who meanly admires mean things is a snob" - william thackeray


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i just watched askins and brogdon...
...answer the same question:

--askins wants more community-based mental health treatment. she points to minnesota, with a larger state population and a smaller prison population as an example that should be copied.

brogdon supports drug courts...and more jesus in jail. he points out that his wife provides faith-based services to prisoners, but he offers no statistics to suggest her work is actually keeping people from coming back to prison.

"he who meanly admires mean things is a snob" - william thackeray


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three out of four want to either repeal or opt out...
...of "obama care", and edmonson is pointing out that the state can opt out of medicare any time--as long as they're willing to accept that the state's share of medicare will immediately go from 30% to 100%...or anyone in the state who gets medicare today will be immediately cut off.

"he who meanly admires mean things is a snob" - william thackeray

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one last comment:
i don't know who roger jackson is, other than hearing him in this debate...but for an oklahoma republican, he's surprisingly rational, and i don't know why more oklahoma republicans aren't supporting him.

"he who meanly admires mean things is a snob" - william thackeray

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